HOW’S THE BACKYARD, Jason? Is there somewhere we can talk?”
It was May 20, 2020, at the height of the pandemic, and an FBI SWAT team had raided the house Jason Fong shared with his parents in Orange County, California. Fong, a 24-year-old Chinese American who, until recently, had been a U.S. Marine Corps reservist, sat handcuffed in the back of a police cruiser outside.
“Just a couple of chairs at the back table,” he told the Irvine police detective and FBI agent questioning him.
Fong led the two lawmen to the backyard, where all three sat at a table near the pool. A body camera worn by FBI Special Agent Thuan Ngo recorded the conversation. Fong, still handcuffed, wore a blue button-down shirt and a white face mask. The family dog wandered around, happily wagging its tail.
“How long have you had this dog?” the detective, Michael Moore, asked.
“Since I was 16,” Fong answered.
Moore read Fong his Miranda rights; Ngo advised him that making a false statement to a federal agent is a felony.
“Let’s back up a little bit,” Moore said. “What are some big changes that have occurred in your life? You converted to Islam?”
“Yeah,” Fong answered.
The detective asked Fong how he became a Muslim, how many guns he owned, and how he used social media.
“I followed a couple of pages that were just mainly Muslim, like, shitposting, kinda just like —”
“Muslim what?” Ngo interrupted, apparently stumped by the word “shitposting.” “I’m sorry?”
“Kind of just, like, meme pages,” Fong answered. “A lot of them make jokes about stupid stuff, like extremism and all that stuff — things I do not condone. … They make memes about extremism in a joking manner.”
Fong described how he communicated with like-minded people on the internet, mostly in the joking or ironic ways of the extremely online. “It’s just satire,” he said, adding that he tried to dissuade anyone who appeared to take a genuine interest in extremist ideologies and groups.
But the federal agent kept pushing. He asked if anyone Fong knew via the chat group claimed to support terrorists. He asked for usernames.
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